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“A convention to amend the Constitution could follow a similar path, with the process for selection of delegates from each state determined by the state legislatures. The convention would then determine its own voting rules and procedures when the delegates from the States convene. Admittedly, this is not an ideal solution because such a system could lead to much confusion and possibly inequitable voting rules at the convention. The only definitive way to eliminate this possible confusion and inequity would be to amend the Constitution with more specific procedures and details for the operation of the convention.”

Article V provides for two processes:
1. The amendment process: the method for making a single limited change.
and
2. A constitutional convention: the method for writing a new constitution.
If Article V is invoked, and it is not The amendment process, then it is a constitutional convention. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE.
Starry eyed conservatives imagine that a Constitutional Convention could not possibly include anyone who wants more government.
Have we forgotten that Obama was elected, and then re-elected?  
Yet a Constitutional Convention is being presented as if it will be a big liberty love fest.
The last time that we had a Constitutional Convention was in 1787, when we got the Constitution that we now have.
That Constitutional Convention was convened to make some small changes in the Articles of Confederation. Instead we got a new Constitution.
We were LUCKY that time.
Those who were at that Constitutional Convention were the leaders of a freedom movement; which had just defeated a tyranny.  Who will be the delegates to a convention this time?
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 George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison will not be there. How many states are there TODAY, which would ratify the constitution for the “Union of Soviet Socialist America”?
There is a claim that we would be safe because our current constitution says that ratification would be required by three fourths of the states.
What if the new constitution does not say that?
The last time that we had a constitutional convention one of the first things that they did was change the rules for ratification that were in place under the Articles of Confederation. That is why ratification now requires three fourths of the states.
So here is the only precedent that we have for a constitutional convention:
They initially met to make a few limited changes in the Articles of Confederation. 
Then they threw out the Articles of Confederation and started over.
They included changing the rules for ratification.
Now we are being told that the only thing that has ever happened previously, is what cannot happen!
There is a presumption that a constitutional convention is a way to fix the problem that congress created. If congress chooses the delegates we can be sure that nothing will change. Most state legislators have assumed that they will choose the delegates. Even if that were true, would that mean that we would get a convention that would unite behind limiting the federal government?

What we could expect from state legislators is evident by looking at what our current State legislators do now.

Do they consistently pass legislation that protects us from unconstitutional usurpation now?
What is to stop them from again throwing the whole constitution out, and again changing the rules for ratification?
We found one legislator who was audacious enough to compare himself to Thomas Jefferson.
We wonder if he would claim that the MAJORITY of the legislators would elect delegates who would uphold the original principles that were set forth in our current constitution.
Let us look at the RECORD:
Have the MAJORITY of our state legislators upheld our right to keep and BEAR arms, as promised in the Second Amendment? Or do many of them claim that we do not really have that right? Or do they claim that we need government’s permission to exercise that constitutional right?
“Keep” means to own and to have at our homes.
“BEAR” means to carry on our persons, when we leave our homes.
View this video made at the

South Carolina Hearing on Constitutional Carry  on 3-20-13

Legislation was introduced in South Carolina in early 2012 to allow constitutional carry. It never got out of committee.
At this time only Alaska, Arizona, Vermont and Wyoming allow residents to carry a firearm without a permit.
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How would you like to be told that you need a permit to exercise the freedom of speech?
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Have the MAJORITY of our state legislators upheld our right to due process and a trial by jury, as promised in Fourth and Seventh Amendments?
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Have the MAJORITY of our state legislators voted to prohibit warrant-less searches by “inspectors” and “code enforcers”?
Have the MAJORITY of our state legislators voted to prohibit “check points”, without probable cause, in violation of  the Fourth Amendment?

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Have the MAJORITY of our state legislators upheld the Tenth Amendment limitations on federal power?

Is there anyone, among our state legislators, who understands the enumerated powers are a listed in Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution?

Where is the Federal government authorized to take control over health care?
Where is the Federal government authorized to take control over our banking system?
Where is the Federal government authorized to take control over our auto industry?
Have our state legislators passed laws to protect us from this usurpation?

Did our state legislators pass any law to prohibit any unconstitutional action by the federal government?
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Next time you are in your bank try this:

Tell them to go home over night with the all of the doors and the vault, unlocked and standing wide open, BUT to put a sign on the door saying that no one is allowed to steal the money.

What they tell you will give you a good understanding of the meaning of a “limited constitutional convention”.


There is a misconception that every state will be required to accept any new constitution that is ratified by three fourths of the states. The only precedent that we have is the constitutional convention of 1787. In that constitutional convention all except 1 of the states ratified one constitution, but Vermont did not ratify that constitution. Vermont was a separate nation for 2 years before they decided to join the United States.

AGAIN, we will have every state offering their own constitution. After a constitutional convention there would certainly be many different suggestions for a new constitution:

There is a current movement for the creation of an independent Spanish speaking nation called “Atzlan”, which would be made up of the south western states of the current United States.

There is a current movement for the creation of an independent nation for what is now the state of Hawaii of the current United States.

There is a current movement for the creation of an independent nation for what is now the state of Alaska of the current United States.

There is a current movement for the creation of an independent nation for what is now the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, which is now a part of the current United States.

There is a current movement for the creation of an independent nation for the American Indian peoples, which would be made up of several states in the mid-west. These states are currently a part of the United States.

There is a current movement for the creation of an independent nation for what is now the state of Texas of the current United States. “The Republic of Texas” and “Atzlan” are not likely to reach any compromise that will eliminate the cataclysm of a shooting war.

In the South East there are two different movements for the creation of a separate nation, which would result from a secession from the United States. “The Republic of New Africa” and the “Confederate States of America” are not likely to reach any compromise that will eliminate the cataclysm of a shooting war.

After a constitutional convention there is no doubt that one of the following will occur: 
1. A shooting war.
2. A division of the former “United” States into two or more new nations.
One of the “Abuses and Usurpations” listed in
the American Declaration of Independence of July 4, 1776
by our founding fathers was:
“He has erected a Multitude of New Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harass our People, and eat out their Substance”
Another one of those “Abuses and Usurpations” was:
“For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury”
These were cited as evidence of
“a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism.”

Thomas Jefferson said:
“The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.”
We add this:
“The battle for liberty is never won, and is never lost.
The battle for liberty always continues.
It is never too late, and it is never soon enough, to defend freedom.
No matter how enslaved we are, we always have hope.
No matter how free we are we are never safe.
NOTHING EVER LIMITS THE GOVERNMENT, EXCEPT THE PEOPLE.
Any generation that fails to defend freedom will lose it.
The next generation will have to shed blood to gain it back.
When the defense of liberty becomes a crime, tyranny is already in force. At that point failure to defend liberty makes slavery at certainty.” John Perna

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Date
March 28th, 2015

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